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Future State Now is LiminalArc's podcast on enterprise AI transformation. Each episode goes inside real client work: what's actually happening in the field, what's working, what isn't, and where AI is creating genuine value versus where it's just noise. Host Stacy Gordon talks with the people building these transformations day to day, turning hands-on experience into practical thinking for anyone leading large-scale, AI-driven change inside organizations.
Future State Now is LiminalArc's podcast on enterprise AI transformation. Each episode goes inside real client work: what's actually happening in the field, what's working, what isn't, and where AI is creating genuine value versus where it's just noise. Host Stacy Gordon talks with the people building these transformations day to day, turning hands-on experience into practical thinking for anyone leading large-scale, AI-driven change inside organizations.
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Apr 2, 2020
Leadership vs. Management w/ Ross Beurmann
Apr 2, 2020
Apr 2, 2020
50 min
In this episode of SoundNotes, Ross Beurmann joins Dave to talk about the difference between Leadership and Management. Although many confuse the two and believe they are the same, they are actually very different things—and this can become extremely apparent during the transition to an Agile approach.
During the interview, Ross explains why it is so important that we gain clarity on the difference between the two, why we want to manage systems, and why it is so important that we inspire teams to manage themselves.
Books Mentioned In This Podcast
- Turn the Ship Around - L. David Marquet https://amzn.to/2QXOGWD
- Leadership is Language - L. David Marquet https://amzn.to/2w2mRFj
- Getting Naked - Patrick Lencioni https://amzn.to/3avNX6A
- Dare to Lead - Brene Brown https://amzn.to/2JptZ1D
- We Were Soldiers Once… And Young - Harold G. Moore https://amzn.to/3dKAvxG
Contacting Ross
- Web: https://www.leadingagile.com/guides/ross-beurmann/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rossbeurmannzcea/
- Email: Ross.Beurmann@leadingagile.com
Contacting Dave
- Email: dave.prior@leadingagile.com
- LeadingAgile: http://www.leadingagile.com/guides/dave-prior/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrsungo/
- Twitter: http://twitter.com/mrsungo
- Personal blog: http://drunkenpm.net
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Feedback/Questions
If you have comments on the podcast or have questions for the LeadingAgile coaches that you’d like to have addressed in a future episode of LeadingAgile’s SoundNotes, you can reach Dave at dave.prior@leadingagile.com
LeadingAgile CSM and CSPO Classes
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Apr 2, 2020
50 min

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